Carvalho talks deadlocked as Irons play hardball

CarvalhoWest Ham are watching their hopes of signing Willim Carvalho slowly slipping away and now rate their chances of doing a deal ith Sporting Lisbon at less than 50/50.
Like interested clubs before them they are finding the Portuguese outfit almost impossible to deal with and one of our key insiders declaring: “It’s harder than dealing with Daniel Levy at Spurs.”
Although the club remains in talks with SL, we have no intention of upping our offer any further despite claims in the Portuguese media that we could return with a third  of £36.4m bid, including add ons for the player, with  a sell on fee as well.
Our source at the club was entirely phlegmatic about the position and unless Lisbon perform a U-turn in talks or accept what’s on the table the Irons will stick with what they have this summer.
We were told: Yes, we are still in talks but over the last 48 hours the odds have gone to about 60/40 against and we won’t be pushed anymore.
The manager has the four players he wanted and to be entirely honest this one was an afterthought. If we get him so be it and if we don’t we have the money left for an emergency in January.”
Meanwhile Carvalho has failed to report for training  this week and some reports in Lisbon claiming this is deliberate as he attempts to make the move happen.

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  • Dunlopilo says:

    I still think it will happen. Sporting cannot keep an unhappy/unwilling player, who already wanted to leave last year because he says he has completed a cycle, needs to go to the next level, and it was what he and his club agreed to..

  • norfolkhammer says:

    Bilic is happy with he’s transfers in is he having a giraffe were nowhere near where we should be surely he’s not relying on Sak & China to stay fit din he watch that dross last weekend oh no he didn’t cos he kept laughing & joking with Mourinhio

  • Hammerkip says:

    Sorry but saying we will save the money for an emergency is rubbish they said exactly the same with the money we didn’t spend on za za (20mil) which was going towards this window.. So really if u add that in we haven’t spent anything .I don’t blame them if its true about Sl but plse don’t act like we spent a lot CU’s with the players we have let go and sold we certainly haven’t..

  • pabloonechop says:

    Have SL changed their position?-seems to me they have consistently wanted £40m which is the release fee trigger. We either meet it or we don’t.
    Hope it gets done but if it isn’t going to happen we need to move on before the window shuts.

  • Nolongerretiredfan says:

    From the club’s point of view it would be a waste of 40m as we will win nothing this year either with or without him so why bother. We may as well blood some of the youngsters and save the money

  • Doughball says:

    Yaaaawwwwnnnn. Boring, move onto some other overhyped foreign superstar who’s going to make the happy Hammers a top 4/6 team.

  • Gareth Hammer says:

    I dont believe anything i read about this signing or any others.This source said this,this source said that.The press make it up as they go along.
    The worst of it though is that some of you swallow it and react to it!!

  • Hammerman6 says:

    Hate to say I told you so…,,,,but

  • Roman says:

    Well one good sign is it seems Carvahlo wants out at S.L.Perhaps Arthur & Harold might pull this one off yet.Im not holding my breath. Anyway we someone to replace Noble and the quicker we get someone quicker the better.

  • Hammer64 says:

    Regarding the friendliness with Misery Face on Sunday, it is really a minor issue, but my heart did sink when I saw Mourinho smiling with him at half time. What he was saying was ‘ I have got you by the cojones mate so I don’t even have anything to moan about’. He knew it was over.

    Reminds me of Shankly years ago,quoted saying when asked about a game with us : ‘Oh aye,Ron Greenwood- a lovely man. West Ham? Aye, always play lovely football’ . Short pause..’Aye, four points very season’. ( in the days of two points for a win). The only bit that has changed is we don’t even play lovely football now.

    • Carrerageorge says:

      Wish Shankly had been around when they only won one of their last six games against us!

  • Boogabenson says:

    Move on whufc. We get bent over too often. Look elsewhere season after season player after player.
    When the boots on the other foot we just give players away. As someone has already said boring story.

  • GW says:

    So let me get this straight. If we don’t put a bid in we’ve been sold down the river, if we do put a bid in and it doesn’t happen straight away we’re wasting our time and if we buy a player who turns out to be **** or turns into a moody backstabbing frenchman with an addiction to Marseille,KFC and blonde’s in Romford and sell them for less we’re giving them away 😆😆 May as well give up signing anyone and just rely on the Poppodom and Captain Slow every year eh 😆

  • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

    Yes GW how dare they refuse our bid on the grounds its not enough to buy out his contract
    , slav tells us what he wants and we go get them BUT he was an after thought and not what we want really as this afterthought was the best player we have had the opportunity to sign
    In decades so if we negotiate like buying a ton of spuds at spitafields we may get it cheaper
    And if it goes tits up we can use levy as a reason for it falling through because we all hate the spuds at it makes it all OK!
    So let’s take a gamble and see if the player can break his poppodom with a falling out ?
    Pay the money and move us forward sully , he is worth much more than you are offering ?
    IMO of course 😉

    • GW says:

      No one ever thinks that carrying dead wood like the Poppodom, Captain Slow or the Scottish Messi stops us spending good wages on decent players do they 😆😆

      • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

        DG calls it moving forward GW buy shyte bin the class as second thoughts 😂😂

  • Terry says:

    Im sure the board are listening to all of your advice fellas.
    Mr.GW has it right,if we dont bid for players you moan,we do bid for players you moan.If we bid a certain amount for a player then you moan he isnt worth it,if we bid another figure for a player you say “just pay the f@cking money”.
    If you arent having a go at players its the manager,if it isnt the manager its the owners.
    Its a constant amonsgst some of you that no matter what our club does some of you will moan about it.
    And yes i moaning now because you bore me.

    • GW says:

      Welcome to the new West Ham Terry 😆 Where wannabe accounts, billionaires, YouTube talent scouts, FIFA 17 managers and opta stats gurus have replaced banter a bit of a laugh and not taking life to seriously 😆😆 Progress Eh?

  • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

    Its a football forum tel? People express points of views?
    Sorry but what was yours on this subject ? Apart from a pointless boring comment !!
    Should we pay the money or not 😂

    • GW says:

      Laz might not agree with everything that Tel has said but he ain’t far wrong about the bleeding moaning all the time 😆😆 Bin Snodgrass off use the money for Carvalho and we’re sorted but I’ll bet you a pint that someone moans about it 😀

      • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

        If they didn’t GW where would we get our laughs from 😂😂
        Come back tel , we need someone to moan at 😂😂😂

  • Radai Lama says:

    Go on Terry you tell the miserable b*stards 😂😂😂
    Btw whats your favourite cake recipe? 😁
    Nothing much to say on Carvalho,aint got a clue whats really happening with negotiations & i cant be arsed to second guess.

    • GW says:

      Tel sounds like a Date and Walnut or a Victoria sponge kind of cake fan to me Rads 😆😆 Which is great news as our next edition of Daphne’s daily bugle has a guest recipe page by none other than world renowned chef Monsieur Banjo 😀😀

      • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

        What’s he delivered now GW 😂
        Icing on the cake no doubt 😂😂

        • GW says:

          No just continually stirs the recipe Laz and then emails the owner of the book to complain when someone says it’s rubbish or has a go at him 😆😆

  • Terry says:

    Actually fellas im partial to a slice or three of Battenburg or an almond slice if cake preference is being discussed LOL.

    • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

      What about lemon drizzle tel 😂😂

      • GW says:

        Laz you know full well that Lemon Drizzle is no longer PC and is now called Citrus Sprinkle instead 😆😆

        • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

          Aahhh that’s why they sell it under the counter at the parish GW 😂😂
          I had no idea 😂😂
          Biscuits ain’t allowed tel sorry! They cause problems with the dentures which leads to moaning and boring complaints 😂
          Cakes only 🍰🍩🍮

    • GW says:

      Good call Terry and a fine choice 😆😆

  • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

    They appear to have all turned to noble ♿ prize authors on the site that shall not be named 😂
    WOW 😂😂

  • Terry says:

    Oh and a bakewell tart is always well recieved when Mrs.Terry buys some.An Orange Club or Finger of Fudge is my favourite small treat if that is also needed as a preference LOL.
    I was a big fan of the YoYo but seldom see them anymore,a tragedy i think.

  • Boogabenson says:

    To keep you cookery tart happy LEMON DRIZZLE CAKE

    225g unsalted butter, softened
    225g caster sugar
    4 eggs
    finely grated zest 1 lemon
    225g self-raising flour
    For the drizzle topping

    juice 1½ lemons
    85g caster sugar

    Heat oven to 180C/fan 160C/gas 4. Beat together 225g softened unsalted butter and 225g caster sugar until pale and creamy, then add 4 eggs, one at a time, slowly mixing through. Sift in 225g flour, then add the finely grated zest of 1 lemon and mix until well combined. Line a loaf tin (8 x 21cm) with greaseproof paper, then spoon in the mixture and level the top with a spoon.
    Bake for 45-50 mins until a thin skewer inserted into the centre of the cake comes out clean. While the cake is cooling in its tin, mix together the juice of 1 1/2 lemons and 85g caster sugar to make the drizzle. ***** the warm cake all over with a skewer or fork, then pour over the drizzle – the juice will sink in and the sugar will form a lovely, crisp topping. Leave in the tin until completely cool, then remove and serve. Will keep in an airtight container for 3-4 days, or freeze for up to 1 month.

    • West Ham Fan No 32 says:

      Thanks Booga, I am partial to a bit of Lemon Drizzle myself, be wary though there is a new one called the Trump in a Russian hotel Lemon Drizzle, that is to be avoided at all costs !

  • Boogabenson says:

    Thanks 32 i heard the trump was light and fluffy on top!

  • claret says:

    If this deal goes sour we urgently a replacement for Noble he is a liability too many teams are allowed to run through the middle & score against the present team, also we need someone who is fast & a aggresive tackler, so if we cannot find anyone for sale we should try out our youth, at least they will be 50% quicker than Noble

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