Deep gloom but no public announcements


West Ham United will be making absolutely no public declarations on Sam Allardyce’s position until the last ball of the season has been kicked.

ClaretandHugh has taken very much on board the worries and frustrations of fans wanting an end to the constant speculation over the manager’s position.

But despite constant nagging, the club is keeping the shutters closed until the end of the season in line with their well known and oft stated policy.

However, there is desperate gloom about the team’s inability to hold onto leads with one source saying: “It’s become a pschological thing and people aren’t helping themselves in trying to protect one goal leads.

“We are allowing teams to dominate us at home and at times look like a League Two side defending against a Premier League side. ”

However, the board is remaining entirely tight-lipped on the managerial issue given that all sides involved have given each other their word nothing will be said before the end of the season.

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Hugh Southon is a lifelong Iron and the founding editor of ClaretandHugh. He is a national newspaper journalist of many years experience and was Bobby Moore's 'ghost' writer during the great man's lifetime. He describes ClaretandHugh as "the Hammers daily newspaper!"

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  • mattefumi el loco says:

    Where are talking about Mr. Nothing, not Guardiola or Ancelotti; I don’t understand what the owners have to think about… Looks like they got themselves a life and death decision to make… Ehi Davids, he’s just a clown, no tricks please!


  • coyi1973 says:

    I think pro-Sam or anti-Sam, this contract situation is a contributing factor to how the second half of the season has gone. I think Sam’s remaining option now to lift some of the doom and gloom is to blood one or two youngsters in the remaining games to get some of the crowd back on his side. Also young players can give the side a bit of a lift.

    As for the managerial situation, one way or another this is a huge decision, all clues seem to indicate that Sam’s contract will not be renewed in line with the boards reputation of not sacking managers very often so nice way out for them here. But my big concern is who to replace him with. There are not many top options out there and I’m not 100% convinced about a foreign manager without much knowledge of the English language. All very well wanting change but the change has to be right.

  • rickthehammer63 says:

    surely Gold & Sullivan aint that blinkered not to see the empty seats on saturday when the attendance was given at 34 thousand plus we all know that season tkt holders numbers in these figures lie. so dont matter if you go or not its number crunching are the fans turning I hope so & ive seen the prices for Everton game Β£55 quid ha ha ha im glad to stay away as for next manager I dont really care anymore as all G & S are money grabbers

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    Also Mr. Bean would be better than BFS; I don’t understand the problem of the language: Koeman, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez (Liverpool or Napoli), Bielsa (Olympic Marseille), etc etc. . how did they communicate, through smoke signals? lol

    • coyi1973 says:

      Koeman speaks good English and as for some of the others, they have joined teams with lots of money. I don’t think language would be an issue either if we have 100 million to spend in the summer. But we don’t have that money and we are not at that level either so I do think that language would be an issue for us.

      Bielsa has a decent reputation but looking at his record in club football I don’t see anything to indicate that this guy is going to be a huge success with us.

    • coyi1973 says:

      Can’t disagree too much with your assessments there, so Laudraup gets your pick. Do you think he is the guy to take us to the next level in the new stadium etc.? Is he the best option available to us?

      Any others names to throw into the hat? Slaven Bilic, is he realistic?

  • coyi1973 says:

    Some of the foreign names mentioned are too risky as we can’t attract the top guys at the moment, we are not in that situation yet. Benitez will not come as we are not big enough or ready yet for that ilk. Moyes, I can’t see him leave Spain so soon as he has a great opportunity to build some reputation there. So what are we left with? Who can take us to the next level?

    I see no manager in the Premier League we can prize away so that would leave us in the Championship or some lesser known foreign manager with no experience of the Premier League.

    Any ideas? Can we actually name 5 proper and realistic candidates who we can actually get and can take us to the next level?

    For starters, I’ll throw Eddie Howe in as a young manager who fits the new era profile and I think would be a popular choice. Strangely I’m actually hoping in some way Bournemouth don’t get promoted so we can get him as I don’t think he’d leave if they do get promoted which is bad as I like Bournemouth.

    So in no particular order,
    1. Eddie Howe – would he be an improvement?
    2. Steve McClaren – would divide opinion
    3. Michael Laudraup – has managed before
    4. Gus Poyet – linked strongly last summer
    5. ????

    any of the above an improvement?

    • whambam says:

      1/, if he can’t get Bournemouth up then he’s no better than SA, and even if he did, SA did that, so that’s not really a qualification
      2/ Wally with a brolly, famous for no planB
      3/ would fit the role
      4/ No, if he’s being replaced by SA, that says it all
      5/ my choice, Wenger, not good enough for 80% of gooner fans but when I put his name up on here, no one argued

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    Now I must work, but later I’ll reply to you…

  • coyi1973 says:


    Can’t disagree too much with your assessments there, so Laudraup gets your pick. Do you think he is the guy to take us to the next level in the new stadium etc.? Is he the best option available to us?

    Any others names to throw into the hat? Slaven Bilic, is he realistic?

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    Ahaha… 30 minutes and I’ll reply don’t worry… I’m eating…

  • Cowhead13 says:

    If they announced that Sams contract was not going to be renewed at the end of the season the switchboard would be inundated with requests for season tickets for years to come.
    This is making me feel very uneasy……………….

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    Ok, here I am. First of all I’m not English, so sorry if don’t speak English very welll. I’ll try to explain what I think about this situation. I’m convinced that the biggest problem remains the fear: fear to change, beacuse you don’t know what will happen tomorrow. It’s human, but history teaches the change goes through the revolution. If you don’t change, you will always be the same. The question is: do you like this situation? Which are your ambitions? What do you expect from West Ham? Ok, if you want boring football, BFS is the answer, if you don’t want youth players BFS is the answer, if you want mediocrity BFS is the answer, if you want poor exuses BFS is the answer, if you want Nolan and long balls BFS is the answer, if you have no dreams BFS i s the answer. Don’t worry, history speaks for himself, his trophy cabinet is empty and always will be; tomorrow he won’t wake up becoming Pep Allardyce, he is and he always be BFS, a loser without ambitions. You ask me which is my favourite manager… I’ve always said (reading the list of the possible managers) I would like Bielsa (he has a very good curriculum and he plays entertaining football); Laudrup, Poyet, Mc Laren? I never mantioned them and I don’t like them so much. Howe? Yes, why not? The point is: you know who is Allardyce and you know his limits, if he remains you can’t afford to dream. Probably I’m a dreamer, but I’m not a stupid: I perfectly know we can’t win PL next year: I just want entertaining football, ambitions, a modern manager and a real project. Maybe it’s too much to hope… And please stop with words like stability: we played well during the first two months of this season just because his two muppets where out… who changed that winning system? BFS. Last season we got out of this by some miracle, and now we have a relegation average… Is BFS the answer? πŸ˜‰

  • TysonM says:

    You never gave us a Stat Matt,want you to back up your arguement with stats,stats & more stats,lol,no wonder you never go to Wetpantswhenidie,you dont offer enough stats.Time you got back on your A game matte πŸ˜€

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    ahahahhaa… sorry Tyson, you’re right, I make up for what I did.

    With the Genius:

    percentage of entartaining football: 0 %
    percentage of young players: 0 %
    percentage of sophisticated excuses: 100 %
    percentage of long balls: 1000 %
    percentage of sophisticated subs: 100%
    percentage of seeing Nolan: 1000%
    percentage of trophies: – 100%
    percentage of yawns: 7000 %

    • rads respects the point says:

      Haha,nice Stats Matte,im impressed.Thanks for your hard work & endeavours to bring us this Stat Pack πŸ˜€

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    ahahah… don’t mention it rads, I’m paid for this job… lol

  • chickenrunner says:

    Lets all have a discussion about who should be the new manager,its very topical & hasnt been talked about for about 1hr.We can list all the possible candidates,talk through their merits or lack of,then leave it 10mins & start all over again.Ahhhh,ok,i just realized im on C&H not wetpantswhenidie.Scrap that idea then lads.Lets go for a beer instead πŸ˜‰

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    aahahha… anyway, my hero on is Rolfe… he’s always positive, he sees the light into the darkness…ahaha maybe thanks to the trascendental meditation or yoga… I need a stat about him… lol

  • bubs says:

    By the time I read all your comments and stopped laughing i had to go back to the start to remind me what the article was about,
    At least after the last week we haven’t lost our sense of humour unlike WHUtiligetconfued,
    Just think after Man City put us to the sword this week how confused they will be ?
    Back to normality BFS OUT ( i can live with Mr Bean but go with Bielsa )

    • mattefumi el loco says:

      ahahha, yes bubs, I’m really happy today knowing Mr Bean could replace BFS. It’s an improvement… lol

  • TysonM says:

    Ffs,some geezer on wetpantswhenidie just said that it must be the biggest west ham forum on the internet,hahahha,do these Stats Gurus not know which one actually is the most read.Shame on them,all stats,no knowledge,lol πŸ˜€

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    ahahhaahah… I love stats, next match we’ll see Samuel Einstein with a calculator chewing his gum and lying on the bench…loool

  • StingRay Stewart says:

    Lol,they think they are the biggest because they assume they are the ‘West Ham Think Tank’.They dont realize that people actually like to read articles with players & the board speaking in them.Not their repetitive threads going over the same old ground,over & over & over & over…well you get the idea.Then if you do try to get involved they call you a troll πŸ˜‰

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    ahahahhaha… one of those stats-man said: “What do you think about Ancelotti?” or “No. no. no Klopp is known for his long balls style” (Klopp???? not Sam lol)… soon someone will say “mmm… And Messi? I think Sam could draw his attention” looool

  • TysonM says:

    Haha,honestly Matte,i have decieded i would rather stab my eyes out with chopsticks than read the crap on there,lol πŸ˜€

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    Ahahahah…. I’m crying… Looool

  • TysonM says:

    Im telling you Matte,by the time that lot on wetpantswhenidie stop banging on again & again about the management situation we could have a C&H space ship on jupiter,refloated the Titanic,taken it on a world cruise & built a McDonalds on the top of Everest & they would still be going on about it,lol,everyone knows Mr.Bean is the way forward,lets just get the deal done πŸ˜‰

  • mattefumi el loco says:

    ahahhahaahahah…. I know Tyson, I like what you wrote… lol… I was thinking to myself …Imagine what will happen when the change of the manager will be official… What will happen? What are stats-men supposed to do? Will the world end? I’m scared, so scared…lol

  • ChickenRunner says:

    I might support the same team as those guys but a few of them are total tools.I saw a post earlier where some geezer said that people on C&H dont even have season tickets.Ffs,i have travelled all over europe with The Irons but i dont even have a season ticket.I agree with Ty,wheres the chopsticks!!! Thank god i dont post on there anymore,best thing i ever did coming here.At least there are regular articles,not just their f*cking boring threads.We dont have season tickets!! Wtf do they know about it.Fair play to the lad who stood up for us on there,good guy!!!

  • Tony gore says:

    OH DEAR! SAMS GOT THE BLUES! He has,nt got claret and blues under control though has he

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