In an earlier piece, CandH follower Zahama gave all the reasons why he believed the manager should be relieved of his duties.
He also appealed for the contributors to forums to keep their tempers with other posters – good advice. Turning on ourselves is about the worst possible move-in times of trouble
Now, in the interests of balance, another of our followers Mark Wiggins reveals whu he doesn’t believe the manager should take all the blame for what’s going on at our club.
By Mark Wiggins
Why always blame the manager because every few years we play crap football then blame the boss.
The only constant thing in all those managers going is the players. It’s not professional to not put up a fight and not even try .
It wasn’t so long ago the football looked so much improved and worth watching so what’s happened. The players need to look at themselves and if unhappy sit down with Pelle and clear the air.
Your lack of effort is down to a bad attitude and not even trying. You are disrespecting the fans and club so sort it out like men because at the moment you resemble nothing more than a bunch of prima donnas.
Whilst Im sure the majority of fans will echo some of your sentiments, it is a crucial part of a managers role to ensure the players selected are in the best possible mental and physical shape to play to a style of footbal that has been pre-determined and then, if the system is under performing, to be able to make changes that have an influence on such.
I cannot say with any real conviction that our manager is doing that right now.
There was a moment on Saturday towards the end of the first half when Mr Pellegrini sat with his head in his hands as his #2 sat there shaking his head and then did nothing.
This has become the motif of the club of late.
The answer is not an immediately availble one, knee jerk reactions are not required right now, but a cool calculated decision with a discernable timeline. Four more games will be enough for the Board to see if improvements performance, attitude and results leaving any interim / new manager to make relevant changes.
Well I respect that opinion. I also believe that these days the role of manager is massively exaggerated. We have Mourinho saying ‘I have played him 5 times & 4 times I win’. Sorry but no- it is the team you manage that won. Pundits often say ‘He saved them/ he got them up’. All rubbish.
However, I don’t accept that players in a poor side are not trying, or trying to get the manager sacked. OK it can happen & it often looks that way when things are going wrong because players become nervous or don’t really understand what the manager wants them to do. So, I don’t think managers are miracle workers, but I do think they have to be changed when they are not getting the best from the players they have & when they recruit players not worth the money paid for them. Managers can become a negative influence, & I think Pellegrini is on the verge of that now. He probably has to be given a few more games, but I don’t believe he will take this club beyond the level it was at in June 2018. It is a question of when the axe falls. And if it is left too late we might be looking at Neil Warnock as the man to get us out of the second tier! There’s a thought…
When it comes to performances and results the buck stops with the manager (and his coaching team). He (mostly) chose the players. It is his job to train, coach & motivate them every week. HE picks the team. HE decides the formation. HE decides the tactics. HE sets us up to counter the opponents. HE decides the substitutions. If it is working and we are doing well he gets the plaudits (along with the players of course). When it is not working as it isn’t working it is HIS job to change it and take responsibility completely if it still doesn’t work
I kind of agree with that statement aswell, I dont think Pellegrini helps himself with formation and tactics but the players have to take a large majority of the blame for our slump aswell! Think they have a disgusting attitude if they dont like some thing down tools and act up. Pathetic bun h if you ask me, this is where you need leaders andnill be honest I can’t see one leader in that squad of players
They are asked, week on week, to play a system that they can plainly see isn’t and will not work for them. They have gradually become demoralised. This happens in all losing teams. OK for a while then collapse as soon as they concede. The manager must take responsibility for that. When we were last in a mess like this, Moyes came in, changed our style of play to 3 5 2 and got us playing the football that suited the squad. Pelligrini seems unwilling to admit his way of playing is not working or unable to see it. The manager must take responsibility for that. He has consistently ignored our problem positions and not strengthened where it is really needed, instead, buying players for positions we were already over loaded in. The manager must take responsibility for that. He has become something of a “tinkerman”, changing a side that was performing quite well at the start of the season and continually making unfathomable changes and inexplicable substitutions. The manager must take responsibility for that. They don’t seem to be playing for him and other than Noble, Rice, Snodgrass and one or two others they owe the badge and shirt no loyalty other than being employees, albeit highly paid ones. If you are unhappy at work you don’t perform to the optimum level. I don’t claim to have all the answers but I’m not getting £8 mill. a year to know them. If he just tried being a little flexible in his style of play it might help. The manager must take responsibility for that.
Ok.so players do share the responsibility for the shocking form last few weeks but if your reserve goalie keeps making mistakes leading to goals every game and you still pick him only for him to cost you the very next game .then you have the ridiculous decision to throw the lightweight and not quite coping with the premier at the moment fornals into Burnley away of all games was madness then you have the fact he dropped ogbonna for another ridiculous reason .picking zabba against the pace of Newcastle saint -maximum is another bonkers decision that we all could see and he couldn’t .MP has lost it and as it stands don’t look like knowing how to change it.
It’s the Bilic situation all over again
This is hilarious,ok let’s give him time because he looks and acts like a fighter of course!it’s all being transmitted to the players that sense of apathy and laid back attitude,that’s if he hasn’t lost some of our flair players already,needs changing immediately at least we would get that ‘boost’factor a new manager nearly always brings,if it goes on too long we could be in big trouble.im so depressed watching that team he puts out.
Well, the Manager is responsible for the Line-up, the Tactics, the Recruitment (in Pellegrini’s case), the style of play, the Substitutions, the Training and a million other things that make up a Football Team – it all stems from the Manager! 🤨
Our current problems stem from Fabianski’s injury and having no proper alternative, and then the inexplicable dropping of Ogbonna and Fredericks against Sheffield United. IMHO 😳
Any confidence that the players had has been drained from them by their uncertainty over Roberto and then the Manager ‘tinkering’ with the Defence! 🤯
“The only constant thing in all those managers going is the players.”
There is another constant, the board. All managerial appointments have followed the same course; a reasonable transfer budget in his first season followed by locking away the chequebook. When the inevitable poor results happen, start the insidious drip drip of undermining and briefing against the manager, then play the game of will he walk or will the board have to pay him off. Rinse and repeat.
“The only constant thing in all those managers going is the players”
What are you talking about?? How are the players constant over the various managers we have had? Apart from Noble. Our playing staff has had more ins and outs than the ‘hokey cokey’ over recent years…