How we rated the Irons v United


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Hugh Southon is a lifelong Iron and the founding editor of ClaretandHugh. He is a national newspaper journalist of many years experience and was Bobby Moore's 'ghost' writer during the great man's lifetime. He describes ClaretandHugh as "the Hammers daily newspaper!"

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  • The Demon says:

    Probably not fair to judge the team on this game – beaten by two goals from a £75m player, one from a £89m player and a last from a £45m player. The Mancs finally look the real deal, having assembled the most expensive team in EPL history.

    But it’s still three points lost and we enter week 2 bottom of the league. The lack of an early home game could really count against us if we don’t recover at Southampton.

    • Carrerageorge says:

      WE missed the three midfielders who do the most to attack. Hart was poor for the 4th and did not move for the second, though it has very hard to save.If he had “no chance for the 4 goals” he should be rated higher.

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  • Stratford E20 says:

    I predicted a 4-0 home win on another thread. I won’t do any more match predictions

  • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

    Noble 6 you’re off you’re chump niall ♿♿♿♿♿😕
    At least when sakho and rice came on we started hitting the front when the pea went in the 10 role, sakho 6 for me noble 3 , masuaku 3 rice 6 hart 4 Arnie 6 zaba 5

  • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

    As soon as I saw the team I rang my uncle and said the same Stratford ! He’s a London manc supporter , he said 3-0 ! I won a pint 🍺😉

  • markro says:

    I didn’t expect anything from this match. On today’s performance Man U have a good shot at the title.
    I am, though concerned about some of our players poor displays.
    Ayew, especially, was dire – slow and losing possession.

    Lanzini was sorely missed, as was Antonio’s competitiveness.

    I was impressed by Hernandez’s efforts as a game progressed, but he had to drop increasingly deeper as he was starved of service.

    Anyway, we’ll improve.

  • schuauthing says:

    Noble was the most committed player out there and was better than I’ve seen him for a while. Sakho looked disinterested after the first 5 mins after he came on which doesn’t bode well.

  • sleepswithdafishes says:

    Wow I actually agreed with all your ratings.
    First game not so important as the rest so we should not worry yet.
    On the other hand they obviously have a lot of work to do for the next game. That will be helped by the returning Lanzini, Antonio, and Creswell. Once again Masuaku did not impress, but at least he improved by successfully jockying his man at least twice ( a fist for him ), and I’m sure he made an interception. Of course people will be unhappy that he defended and didn’t run with the ball up the pitch much.
    Ogbonna again worked with Masuaku to create an early chance for Man. U but at least he made up for it later with a tackle.
    Rice muct be considered for Southampton, and I mean at CB not midfield.
    Team for Souhampton should be:
    Zabaleta Reid Rice Cresswell
    Obiang Noble
    Antonio Lanzini Arnautavic
    Hernandes ( Sahko on stanby )

    With that team we will win and forget this game.

  • Bennie The Rake says:

    What an eye opener for me today on my first experience of west ham web site browsing during and after a match.i never realised we had so many premier league managers hiding their talents under a bushel Lol
    Thats a monster midfeld Manure have,they were impressive even though it pains me to say it.They are going to dominate many sides this season so i am not too dispirted
    Though maybe i should be suicidal judging by the reaction from some fans which i cant comprehend i admit.

  • johnham1 says:

    We lost 4-0 because of naïve tactics – it was obvious to everyone before the game we had to play a 3-5-2 system. The manager must take part responsibility for a very disappointing performance. The plusses for me were hart, zaba, anautovic and hernandez and the appearance of Sakho who will only get better. I thought Ogbanna was terrible – I would like to see us sign a top CH. Masuka was not far behind him but I think this guy is a good player. Our midfield 3 were just terrible, Fernandez totally outclassed, Noble totally one paced and Obiang had his worse game for West Ham. I really hope we sign carvalaro and the sooner Kouyate is back the better. Based on todays showing I would not rule out signing another forward player. Ayew has ability but we are not seeing it. Hernandez is too small to be a lone striker. IMO if we get Carvalio we then need a CH and forward player.

  • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

    We need 2 c/h 2 full backs 1 dmf 1 more playmaker 6 in total £ 240 mill please sully 😈
    I bet sully has run to Portugal tonight with the extra cash to seal carvhalo deal after that poor display in our midfield and defence 😎 but don’t stop there sully get the petty cash out as well 😂

  • Gaz says:

    And were off and running.Only another ten months of the same whinging to go.Oh what fun its going to be.

  • RangeyFlorida says:

    For anyone to not expect anything from this game shows how far West Hame are from top six. Really nothing ?? If you play a game to win and lose 4-0 pkay sort of . to play not to lose as we did and lose 4-0 …. that shows how far behind we are . I think that was the worst showing of any team that played this weekend and I saw the all. Ayew if you touch him with your breath falls over and left Zabeleta isolated too many times .Fernandes is so far off the level that a Sunday coach would have seen. Ogbanna did not make one pass over 15 yards to a West Ham player . Matusaku started okay and then plummeted.( why is he marking Yukaku ?) Jury put on Arny. Obiang a really bad game for him.
    I expect more from a season opener even in Manchester.
    My scoring Hart 5 Zabelleta 5 Reed 6 Ogbanna 3 Matsuaku 4 Obiang 4 Fernandes 4 Noble 5 Arny 5 Ayew 2 Chico 5 Rice 6 Sakho 5 Cresswell 5.

  • RangeyFlorida says:

    Sorry for the spell check errors I have the same agent as Claret and Hugh

  • mattefumi27 says:

    Noble 6… yeah, he reminds me Andrea Pirlo on his best day… lol

    • Lazurus. rises like a salmon says:

      Matte you old dog 😂 how did the ball and chain ceremony go 😂😂 what a player captain slow is , did you see him zipping about like usain bolt on steroids ♿💊💊💊lol , didn’t look good did it,
      Saints next let’s see if we can be the sinners ehh, China will be back soon to save us so don’t despair mate 😂😂 rads been missing a couple of days ??? Xxxx 😉👅🍺 ?
      Chow 😉

  • norfolkhammer says:

    sell the lot at at a boot sale if we raise half a quid happy days not being funny these players are suppose to be tip top athletes with energy to burn lol they couldn’t beat the 75 or 80 squad who most liked a drink I rest my case as for winning there 10 yrs ago with Tevez goal funny how Manure were champions & had nothing to play for & then suprise suprise Tevez shows up in Manure shirt following season no payout to any other club only us can be hoodwinked beggar’s belief ffs West Ham fans wake up & smell the bull the 2 plus mouth piece are spouting in the 60s 70s 80s & even 90s we weren’t this far behind the top 2 London clubs which were spuds & gooners Chelsea weren’t even that good they were crap the team every one looked upto was the bin dippers & look how far they have bombed in all where as the money gone in recent years we are so far behind we need Sheik the money tree to take over as the spitting image 3 are taking us nowhere all they see us as is punters grr I hate that after following this club through thick * thin I miss the skill of Tricky Trev Devo the warrior Bonzo the goals of Paddon Pop Robson Lampard Sr this lot couldn’t lace there jock strap as for the OS it’s a **** hole not fit for football long live the Boleyn & before anyone says move on I have with baited breath the club are a shambles & BILIC OUT

  • mooro66uk says:

    Is that it? What about the tea lady? lol.

  • Gaz says:

    Unbelievable,it really is,some fans make me puke.They only use these sites to scream like kids.Perhaps we should import some athletics fans to support us instead of norfolkhammer because it isnt a ****hole and soulless bowl when their in it!!!
    One defeat to Manchester United and the club are a shambles.You are cringe norfolkhammer.

    • Hammerman6 says:

      Sorry Gaz but Norfolk isn’t completely wrong. Manure may have more players with better skills, but we really should be competing on a fitness level. Yesterday until Young Rice appeared every one of our team was at least a yard slower in every position especially the back four. Zaba, Read looked particularly slow and Obiang Noble & Fernandes looked distinctly languid. There was no pace or commmitment and as for Ayew all he did was prevent the linesman at their end nodding off from boredom. Shambles is a bit too strong but we do lack passion the likes of which Bonzo, Dicks & Paulo brought to the table. Noble has and is a great stalwart for us but his best days are behind him. I tend to feel like Gaz we are I am afraid a ship without a rudder at the moment. An unsea worthy one at that .

  • BrookingtoDevonshire says:

    Well then who does everyone think can play as a wing back ?
    I haven’t a clue as the only one who could is Antonio and he needs to play further up the field
    Seems strange that Moses and Alonso who no-one thought could fill that role suddenly could and blossomed
    Was it great coaching or just luck
    Surely there is a player at the club that could fullfill this role if they were coached properly

    • markro says:

      Fernandes (who did not cover himself in glory yesterday) played as a wing back several times last year and looked reasonable there.

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