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Joe Cole gives his view on what is wrong at West Ham

Former two time Hammer has given his view on the current situation at West Ham telling BT Sports viewers: “A lot of friends are West Ham fans, David (Moyes) is the manager at the moment, he’s there to be shot down, he’s there taking it all, I think a lot of the frustration comes from the changing of the stadium, listen West Ham fans were gutted to leave Upton Park, but if they could see a bright future, if there was a plan in place, the type of player they bought when they went to the new stadium, are they young and exciting players? Are they champions league players?  That was a promise! We are going for the Champions League, you feel the frustration from West Ham fans, they are not a hard bunch to please. They want players who fight, who graft but there also want a little bit of flair. West Ham have not won anything for thirty years. David Moyes hasn’t got pressure on him to win the FA Cup but fans want to see a team that is pulling in the right direction.  I think the problem lays more with the owners and the board in the eyes of the fans. There is a counter-argument that actually spent  money, they have not just spent it wisely”

About Sean Whetstone

I am Season Ticket Holder in West stand lower at the London Stadium and before that, I used to stand in the Sir Trevor Brooking Lower Row R seat 159 in the Boleyn Ground and in the Eighties I stood on the terraces of the old South Bank. I am a presenter on the West Ham Podcast called MooreThanJustaPodcast.co.uk. A Blogger on WestHamTillIdie.com a member of the West Ham Supporters Advisory Board (SAB), Founder of a Youtube channel called Mr West Ham Football at http://www.youtube.com/MrWestHamFootball, I am also the associate editor here at Claret and Hugh. Life Long singer of bubbles! Come on you Irons! Follow me at @Westhamfootball on twitter
 

9 comments on “Joe Cole gives his view on what is wrong at West Ham

  1. Glad you posted this Hugh as I posted about this in a previous post do you agree with him? I certainly did . Don’t think the board are going to give him a coaching job any day soon for telling the truth? But you get the feeling a massive change has got to happen or do we just muddle on ?????

  2. “Are they Champions LEAGUE players?”

    Most are barely ChampionSHIP players, irrespective of their price tag.

    Its actually nearer 40 years since we won anything, but otherwise, all well-intentioned.

    IMO, owners should be made to take a Supporters’ fit for purpose test, not just a test into whether or not they are able to service a debt………….

    Having effectively ruined 2 football clubs, they should have long since been banned from being directors/owners of any football club.

  3. The bottom line id that S and G made a huge profit at Birmingham on the cheap and are trying to replicate this at West ham. The was a marking against their 10 point plan on this website which was hugely sympathetic, but I think the majority of fans have had enough. I consider myself a proper fan. I went all over the country in the early 80’s and have been to hundreds of games ever since – but the promise sold by G and S when we moved to the London Stadium was pure bull**** and my season tickets were relinquished after the debacle of the first season at the LS. Even when I watch them on the telly I usually give up after 70 mins as it is too depressing.
    I posted the following earlier but by the time it appeared several more news items had appeared – my analysis seems fairly close to Joe Cole’s –
    IF the club is making a £40m loss then too many people have their hands in the till. Only a couple of weeks ago the club were assessed as the 18th richest in the world. The interest rates paid on the director loans are well above commercial lending rates, and the salary package and bonus paid to Karen Brady are extortionate.
    There is no strategy or plan. Take the managerial changes from Grant to Allardyce to Bilic to Moyes to Pellegrini to Moyes again. No continuity in back room staff, scouting, playing philosophy etc. Each manager leaving after a series of leaks and undermining.
    The youth system has improved in terms of U-23 performance but not to the extent we are seeing more players coming through to the first team. Zola was playing Tomkins, Noble, Hines, Sears and Stanislas when the two Daves arrived . Admittedly three of these did not cut the mustard at Premier level. In the ten years since only Rice and Grady have established themselves in the team and the training ground is an embarrassment.
    We continually invest stupid sums in players with poor injury records – Carroll, Whilshire, Yalmemenko, etc
    With one exception (the year before last) our net spend is extremely low. This year we reverted to type with Obiang, Arnautovic, Oxford, Byram, Perez, Fernandez, Chicarito, sold for fees totalling £48m plus significant squad reduction with Carroll, Adrian, etc all going.
    The move from the Boleyn was sold on a lie. No sign of the promised champions league football and overtaken by a series of better run clubs.
    The Daves made money out of Birmingham on the cheap and want to do the same at West Ham
    In a way they deserve the diminished asset they have created

  4. The bottom line id that S and G made a huge profit at Birmingham on the cheap and are trying to replicate this at West ham. The was a marking against their 10 point plan on this website which was hugely sympathetic, but I think the majority of fans have had enough. I consider myself a proper fan. I went all over the country in the early 80’s and have been to hundreds of games ever since – but the promise sold by G and S when we moved to the London Stadium was pure bull**** and my season tickets were relinquished after the debacle of the first season at the LS. Even when I watch them on the telly I usually give up after 70 mins as it is too depressing.
    I posted earlier but by the time it appeared several more news items had appeared – my analysis seems fairly close to Joe Cole’s –
    IF the club is making a £40m loss then too many people have their hands in the till. Only a couple of weeks ago the club were assessed as the 18th richest in the world. The interest rates paid on the director loans are well above commercial lending rates, and the salary package and bonus paid to Karen Brady are extortionate.
    There is no strategy or plan. Take the managerial changes from Grant to Allardyce to Bilic to Moyes to Pellegrini to Moyes again. No continuity in back room staff, scouting, playing philosophy etc. Each manager leaving after a series of leaks and undermining.
    The youth system has improved in terms of U-23 performance but not to the extent we are seeing more players coming through to the first team. Zola was playing Tomkins, Noble, Hines, Sears and Stanislas when the two Daves arrived . Admittedly three of these did not cut the mustard at Premier level. In the ten years since only Rice and Grady have established themselves in the team and the training ground is an embarrassment.
    We continually invest stupid sums in players with poor injury records – Carroll, Whilshire, Yalmemenko, etc
    With one exception (the year before last) our net spend is extremely low. This year we reverted to type with Obiang, Arnautovic, Oxford, Byram, Perez, Fernandez, Chicarito, sold for fees totalling £48m plus significant squad reduction with Carroll, Adrian, etc all going.
    The move from the Boleyn was sold on a lie. No sign of the promised champions league football and overtaken by a series of better run clubs.
    The Daves made money out of Birmingham on the cheap and want to do the same at West Ham
    In a way they deserve the diminished asset they have created

  5. I do not like what has happened to the club but am glad the Glazers don’t own it.
    Upton park is gone. The London Stadium has no soul, but was acquired for a song. It has potential.
    JC is spot on. We brought in too many slow players with no vision.

    My son gets razzed all the time for his WHU kit. TBoleyn in the crest is a constant reminder of the mistake. We may yet have the last laugh, just don’t think it will be soon

    • Can I just ask a question that might seem stupid? Is an operating cost of £40m a loss? Surely running costs involve paying wages, rent, bills, etc before profits are involved or is that operating costs post-profit? £40m operating costs for a premier league club doesn’t seem so high if it’s pre-profit. Am I wrong? Be keen for someone to point this out. Thanks

  6. McManaman was more interesting than JC who has to watch his words in case he wants a job at the club. McManaman said clubs like Liverpool do their homework on players to make sure they have the right character. Ironically Big Sam used to buy personalities rather than skill so that when times got tough he knew he could rely on them, defo don’t want Sam style players but we should be looking long term at those characteristics in younger players so we have fighters in the team, have said forever we should have our reserve teams playing same style as first team also to make it easier for those players to transition into first team.

  7. About time you shared some true feelings

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