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Moyes should blame himself for Old Trafford defeat

Maybe somebody can explain precisely why David Moyes chose to throw Ryan Fredericks into the action and remove Vladi Coufal from the team this afternoon.

Until I know differently I will assume he was injured because I can honestly not think of any other reason for him to sub the Czech.

But  to leave Ben Johnson on the bench and favour Fredericks to help see the game out was a huge mistake and error of judgement.

I’ve now looked at the winning goal half a dozen times and it came down Fredericks’ side where the full back’s involvement was entirely laughable.

The Number 24 was all over the place as before Marcus Rashford poked the ball home after involvement from two other subs Cavani and Martial.

Our sub responsible for a goal carved out by their three replacements – that tells you everything you need to know.

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Being entirely honest I thought initially the goal was offside but it wasn’t.

That can be seen quite clearly on the you tube highlights which you can take a look at as they are not available to reproduce here.

It’s all well and good Moyes blaming his defenders for switching off and to a point he’s right but the one who was chiefly responsible was put on the field by him and it was a huge mistake.

Blame yourself gaffer. United’s subs were spot on – ours were rubbish!

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13 comments on “Moyes should blame himself for Old Trafford defeat

  1. Ryan Fredericks is a senior professional. To be so far out of position in the last minute of a game away from home is a crime. I assume Moyes put Fredericks on to cope with the fresh legs of a newly introduced Marcus Rashford.

  2. Moyes fault 100%
    Why on earth would you bring Fredricks on when you have Ben Johnson on the bench.
    Starting to loose faith in Divering Dave….
    No new signings & bad tactical decisions, what started out as a great looking season is in danger of crashing & burning 😴

  3. 100% Moyes cost us a point with the decision to replace Coufal. He was so solid all afternoon defensively, there was no logic whatsoever in replacing him. Fredericks is quick but he cannot defend just an incredible stupid decision.

  4. I agree with Clive I think Moyes chose Fredrick for his pace against Rashford . But Bella 100 sorry to say but to blame the manager regarding transfers not been done yet is harsh. First off you need players who will improve the team not buy for the sake of keeping fans happy.Secondly there are many factors regarding transfers like players wanting to play for us, Agent demands, how clubs want payment etc. Also regarding Fredricks he also is recorded as the quickest over 50 @ 100 metres in the squad so that would maybe explain why the manager makes decisions that we don’t always understand.. I believe Moyes deserves credit for what he has done. Who do you want in as his replacement?

    • Never mentioned a manager change, Moyes has had the title of Dithering Dave all his career , we employed probably the best scout / recruitment officer in the world but none of his recommendations are good enough for Moyes , Bernado Silva , Laporte , Diaz , Gundogan to name but a few were all signings of Newman whilst serving his time at City none of which has let Pep down, so what exactly is Dithering Dave looking for.?

  5. So annoyed! Last minute of extra time, Cress Zouma and Dawson in defensive shape, bloody Fredericks cavorting near the halfway line. He stretches to head the ball right into Ronaldo stride. When will we learn to choke out the game? Why does DM lob on chancers like Masuaku and Fredericks when we need stability not mavericks? We are embarrassingly naive after 90 mins time and again.

  6. Coufal was shocking today, I’m so surprised to hear you can’t think of any reason why he was subbed?

    I can remember about 5 instances at least where Coufal kicked a ball directly into touch, off a player, or just missed an easy tackle. He was shocking and needed to be replaced before he did something bad. I had no faith when i saw Fredricks was the replacement however.

    I’d agree with Bella that Johnson was the more reasonable response, better defender and does the right thing – add him into a heated game and he will adapt. I can only think that he was not fully fit, because that misplaced header directly cost us the goal.

  7. Totally agree Hugh as written in my comment in another post.
    Why all of a sudden is Fredericks no 1.
    He has no football brain. Even Harrison Ashby performed better in his few minutes the other week.
    Just pathetic how Moyes can’t use his subs properly time and time again

  8. It’s all a case of Ifs & buts. If Bowen had controlled the ball, we would have been on the attack in the last minute and not them!

  9. Exactly Hughie – did Fredericks think he was on there to score the winner? In the last minute of injury time, he was 30 yards ahead of the other three defenders, in no man’s land, near the wiring. DOH!!! Oh and btw Mr Moyes, you are allowed three subs to shut it out – just saying.

  10. The goal was offside, it’s offside in the var clips wideley shared on social media and at that point the ball is still on the foot of the player it hasn’t even left his foot bu the time it does its even more offside, imhp the PL officialls are corrupt and have been for decades the evidence I cite to back that up is that every season Man Utd finish top or close to the top in favourable decisions that lead to goals, it can’t be a coincidence it happens every season, consistently we are close to the bottom of the table, whether we are doing well or otherwise.

  11. Agree with you though Moyes is too blame, he says the team need to improve at seeing games out, he is responsible for coaching that, we play a counter attacking style and not a posession based style of football and he needs to learn how to do that, ironically Pellegrini was pretty decent at that even though we had no penetration. Moyes also should have signed replacements at left back left cb and striker, as you point out in an earlier post Newman should have offered these even if the price was prohibitive and if we finish this window without signing a player that improves the squad then an investigation should happen into why we were not aggressive enough in getting said players.

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