By Hughie Southon
West Ham boss David Moyes will be in charge for the start of the season at Bournemouth next weekend.
Claret and Hugh, in the shape of me, had called on the board to sack him after a dreadful performance in Germany today and sent an e mail to the club following the game explaining why we believed that had to be the case.
A 4-0 defeat in the last game ahead of the new season when the team should be reaching a peak – and the manner of the defeat – were the reasons we gave citing the lack of energy and artistry we saw compared to the opposition – a team put together in part by a certain Tim Steidten!
We added that we found it incomprehensible that after losing midfielder Declan Rice and striker Gianluca Scamacca that the manager’s priority signing appeared to be Harry Maguire – a defender.
But whilst a key insider agreed that the team had needed to show us a lot more than they did today he explained that there would be no sacking or decisions on it made until the League season kicks in.
We don’t want anyone to be under the misapprehension that we are afraid to explain our feelings to the board but we were told that the manager would not be judged on defeats in pre season….fair enough I suppose!
The precise quote he gave us was: “Judge him on LEAGUE GAMES, not meaningless pre season games, albeit today was depressing and I accept what you say, that we needed to see more in the last game before the season starts.”
Moyes is the route cause of everything that is affecting the club ar the moment. The one thing that is inevitable is that he will be sacked before the season is out and should be sacked now before he does any more damage. We cannot afford for any more good players to leave. I watched game yesterday and his selection of certain pjayers over others was shocking, he has been given the chance to align and change but he wont, nothing has changed he is without doubt the worse manager in the PL. He needs to be sacked now before the season starts and for us to let the DOF focus on getting the right players and the new manager to get to know the players. It’s as simple as that.
Great journalism, Claret & Hugh, (with our 105 mil in 2yrs time) you have linked us with just about every footballer, going, majority of them all false, then totally slag our team & management off for not getting them, them in, what a load of tosh!. Our team needs rebuilding no question, as 4/5 were at the twilight of their careers, and needs to be reinforced, and one (obviously great striker) thats been walking around like a smacked arse for last 6 months, (and no he does not have the right to do that, just because he cant walk straight into a starting place, he has to earn that right.) I have really enjoyed the last three years of European football, absolutely loved every min of it, and to win a trophy, for me was fantastic. and you calling for the manager and owners to be sacked!….. You are sir, using your platform to score cheap points, and earn cheap ratings, its so easy to sit back and criticise, and try and pick up on every negative thing you can. Judge the team and staff at the end of the season, thats the proper thing to do, they at the very least deserve that.
Nonsense, The players we have been mentioning are all targets or attributed to those who have said so. We slag them because if you cant get who you claim to want then you deserve to be. And we have never called for the board to be sacked only the manager so pot kettle black in your case comes to mind
Think we are judging him on last season as well Jon, his style is no longer successful, without our talismanic ex captain this lot don’t seem to:want to play for him, we have players that won’t renew contracts, coaches leaving en masse because they can’t work with him. He did a good job and his commitment is second to none but we are not moving forward and he hasn’t showed signs of turning that around or that he has a plan b.
I LOVE C&H and read you several times a day – from the US! However I really think you have to get off Moyes’ back and let him get on with his job. Constantly calling for his sacking – with a brief pause when we won the ECL – is not helpful and not fair. Is he perfect? No. Is he our most successful manager for years? Yes. It’s not going to be sunny every day but that doesn’t mean we can’t get a nice tan by the end of the year. Please, give him a break and let him get on with his job. Thank you!!
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Thanks Hughie.
It’s not just pre season, as a season ticket holder we watched too many games in the league like that last season and watching the game today brought back all those painful memories. To make it worse we are a weaker side due to the sale of two key players! Good on you for sending the email.
Of course he’ll be in charge at Bournemouth. He has his faults but you can’t blame him for everything. I would be looking higher above to apportion blame.
I think the club is correct in saying that Moyes will be judged on league games not “meaningless” friendlies. We have a few tricky fixtures coming up. If they go badly then may be the time to “call for his head”
Well done Hugh, it’s what most of us feel, time for a modern coach, Alonso’s team played the sort of football we would like, him Kompany, DeZerbi, Potter, Frank, Slot there are lots of good managers out there.
NO WHUFC game is meaningless to the West Ham fans. What a ****ed up thing to say
“not meaningless pre season games”
So they will let Moyes keep making his mistakes in a few League games until they get it through their heads he is inept. Meantime the Fans suffer. I still say time for a Petition and voting with feet. If Moyes manages then the Board have to supplement losses for very low crowds. This Board understand money. Kicking them otherwise doesn’t work, kicking in the pocket gets through to them very quickly.
Here we go again. End of October few points, supporters want Moyes gone “( I wanted him gone month ago and definitely after Euro success) and Sully says noone available!!!!!. Football is big business now except at WH. Mibatch
Well done. I’m unsure who your insider is, but calling the last game before the season starts as “meaningless” is telling of the malaise and negative attitude within the club. I’d have lambasted him for that sentiment. No game should be deemed meaningless. Ever. Not when you’re putting on the shirt and representing our club.
And we’re not judging him on just these games. If he has no new players to embed, then it’s just a continuation of last season, isn’t it? Judgement isn’t going to change if the circumstances you’re judging haven’t changed!! Goodness me.
…and one more thing. My Dad is in his mid 70s now, and I love him to bits, but he’s frankly not as sharp of ‘battle hardened’ as he once was. His business acumen and sharps that he had when he was in his 50s/60s just aren’t there any more as age catches up…you have to wonder if maybe our erstwhile chairman isn’t losing the stomach for the fight a bit as well.
Easier to do nothing, cross your fingers, and hope it all works out. Inaction is not the same as loyalty.
The chairman is beginning to seem more and more asleep at the wheel!
Another nail biting season ahead, Moyes must go!
He has been judged on league games….he lost 20 odd of the last 38.
2 coaches have binned him off without replacement, he’s not even fronted up after the last 2 friendly defeats, sending the hapless McKinlay in his stead!
The pattern is set…this is merely a continuation of the theme of the last league campaign, and the end of the one before it.
Assuming your ‘board contact’ is Sullivan, please ask him why he can’t see what is so clearly in front of him off the back of the last 60 odd matches Moyes has overseen. We’ve beaten part timers, relegation candidates, and scraped the odd point against midyable sides, with barely an entertaining, cohesive team display amongst them.
How much more evidence does he need that Moyes is from a bygone era, hopelessly out of his depth in the modern game, slowly (but in an accelerating fashion) alienating supporters, players and staff alike. I can only imagine what the players say about him when he’s not there.
It’s pitiful, painful and it has to stop. The longer your “board contact” waits the more damage he does. He’s been gutless in not doing the right thing for the club and getting rid and the longer he waits the more the tumour at the heart of our club grows. Moyes is the weakest part of our first team setup… we’re fannying around trying to upgrade the playing squad when with the players we’ve got who knows if they’re any good….they never have the ball and are hopelessly setup and drilled.
If he wants to upgrade the first team, upgrade the MANAGER for the love of all things holy! It’s the biggest impact he could have. DO YOUR JOB SULLIVAN!
The club needs to know our feelings.
Well done Hugh.