David Moyes’ explanation as to why he won’t throw Jarrod Bowen into immediate action …and that he sets his teams up to win – not to get beaten – has drawn nothing but widespread contempt from Hammers fans.
Here are some random comments from the ClaretandHugh website forum.
O Bowen is no kid, he is 23 and he’s been starring in the Championship by scoring and assisting in goals all season and the Championship is a pretty tough physical league to play in too so the guy is more than ready. He’s willing, keen and able to play in the Premiership so starting him on the bench and bringing him on with 10 minutes to go with us being down 2-0 and still only playing defensive football really beggars belief!!
O He set the team up to lose only 2-0 instead of 6-0! Man. City & Liverpool away are bonus games where we’re expected to get nothing but at least have a real go at them instead of trying to overwork the defence!!
O Probably drop Declan as Moyes will need more experience in his eyes to fight relegation. Absolute joke of a manager
O Moyes decisions means he only has 5 brain cells. Make that 2 after comments re Bowen. Is he saving him for the Villa game. Play him now. Let him get PL experience.
O Moyes decided to play Arthur at LB against City. What side of the goal did they score 2.
Perhaps the demo at Southampton game would be more useful if it was against Moyes. Clueless is a polite way of explaining what I think of his decisions. He will probably put Declan at centre forward next.
Perhaps the demo at Southampton game would be more useful if it was against Moyes. Clueless is a polite way of explaining what I think of his decisions. He will probably put Declan at centre forward next.
ClaretandHugh says: The fans are right. Of course they are right…it goes without saying. Buying a player at this point of he season to help save it and then deciding he will only make limited appearances is utter madness. Wrong, wrong wrong Mr Moyes. And as for setting up to win you truly are having a laugh.
Interestingly fella at work who is big Everton fan said although they done ok with him at Everton , but their record vs top 6 teams ( especially away from home) was appalling and he never went out to win.
If you were a professional player and your manager showed no confidence in the team to the point where he was not playing players so you didn’t get stuffed by too many it would surely totally undermine the team confidence let alone the players.
As for the fans, I haven’t spoken to one supporter who wasn’t embarrassed and disillusioned after the other night.
Moyes has already lost the supporters, how long before he loses the dressing room, if he hasn’t already.
Play Antonio up front as soon as possible
David Moyes is now proving ,week after week, what I thought when he first was appointed by our “know all about football” owner Sullivan. Wrong man for a club like West Ham, is continually picking the wrong tactics,picking the wrong players and keeping the right players on the bench. How on earth does Matsuaku keep being selected is beyond me,Lanzini also in front of Fornals.Buying a goalscorer and “saving him” for the right game. Too late to sack him,although we would probably do better without a manager, and I feel too late to save us from relegation.
Can’t believe moyes comments with twelve games left and not putting bown in at least on 60 mins just shows how negative he is also playing masuaku who hasn’t got a clue
I wonder what people will say if we go down on goal difference, probably well done Moyes you are the correct manager for us,at last you had a go.
West ham supporter for over fifty years and for the first time it actually feels we are punching above our weight, we always had a fairly good core ( even though they normally got sold off ) I am sure David Moyes wants the best for West ham but hasn’t got a clue how to achieve it.
I can’t see anymore than one three point game in our run in and even that looks iffy.
I live in the Plymouth area so maybe as they move up the leagues we will pass them on the way down, maybe then we can get back to playing half decent football where we realise there is a goal mouth ahead of us and not just behind, ever hopeful.
David just play him let him show you and us what he can do 12 minutes wasn’t long enough on Wednesday evening please wake up and smell the coffee before it’s too late please David
Maybe, if we had an actual DOF and CEO, instead of Sullivan and the Baroness of gossip and hypocrisy, selecting the managers, we would never have sank so low!
Not one manager in ten years has drawn the attention of a bigger club and only one has actually done the job that was needed (Allardyce)imo.The others,to a man, have been picking up the pieces or been given woefully inadequate funds to build open their respective first seasons.
Moyes has done nothing of note in the last decade.Neither has Sullivan – Brady has done plenty, but none of it for the benefit of the club and it’s fans,despite her constantly telling us otherwise,imo.
What a Meek and Gutless performance against Man city. You should play to win every game , not to lose by a narrow margin, thanks to Fabianski they did not lose by a few more.
Just hoping they don,t put Nolan in charge in the near future.
Nope, l get. It with Bowen ! He was great on. Bullseye and he always gave BFH ! ( Bus fare home) You couldn’t beat a bit of bully on a Sunday night before school
Not sure Moyes ever had the dressing room. Nor is he the kind of manager who attracts players to a club. He’s the panic option. And it’s happened twice. That’s where we are and how it feels. Heavily dependant now on other teams around us doing badly. No wonder the fans have had enough.
I just watched the lads on TV and I cannot believe the analysis of the likes of Merson and Thompson. Firstly they said that West Ham have no pace in the squad. Ridiculous accusation we have Anderson, we have Bowen, we have Haller, we have Antonio and we have Fornals. We had no pace in the team on Monday night because the manager picked players like Snodgrass and Noble in the team. Moyes has to pick a team with pace in it or we are going down. You play to our strengths and if Moyes believes that playing Noble and playing Snodgrass we are doing that then he has to be sacked because we will lose every single one of the next 6 games. I believe his time is already up but if he insults us again with a team lack of offensive ideas against Liverpool he has to go. Everyone knows in football if you sit back against Liverpool they will beat you but if you challenge the middle of their defense then you will create chances and possible get something from the game.
Seem to remember he did the same with Hugill, hope that is not dejavu with Bowen, we need him and NOW
Against Liverpool it might be the right tactic who knows ? I would love to see him play and start personally, take a chance but I can understand the logic of protecting his confidence.
The thing is with Bowen I don’t think confidence is a problem and in terms of goal difference, having a willing runner up top closing down the opposition, I feel we are less likely to concede and more likely to score with him playing, imho we should mirror them, 4 3 3, Arthur is a liability, Liverpool will rip him apart so 5 at the back is probably a bigger risk.
Try giving Haller the Frankfurt formation with Antonio and Bowen either side, Soucek, Rice and maybe Lanzini, Anderson or Fornals in a deeper role, Fredericks, Diop, Oggy and Cresswell with Fab in behind and hope that Liverpool have an off day.
Let’s be lucky COYI
Moyes is possibly the worst manager we’ve had and that takes some.
Someone put us out our misery and sack him, after us he will never manage again (although i said that the last time we had him)
Would rather noble took over, at least he would know him and snodgrass haven’t got the legs for city and Liverpool away…..
Sack Moyes pleeeeeeeeeeeease !!!!!
Let’s face it Moyes got the job because no one else wanted it, apart from his 2013-2014 stint at man u teams under his management have lost & drawn more games than they’ve won, it’s more of a case of “olld dogs can’t learn new tricks”, his approach to the man city game was more than clear he hasn’t got a clue, if you set a team up to defend for 90 minutes against the likes of man city then you will get punished, you go at a team like them, put them on the back foot as much as possible, make them defend.
The biggest problem west ham have is the fact Moyes has no confidence in them, he’s expecting relegation, he’s not being paid to keep them out of relegation.
Making comments on forums won’t do anything to stop that, if the fans want to send a message to the club then DON’T copy the Newcastle fans, they complained every week but still showed up to the ground to fill the stadium up, no one listened wek in week out, if the west ham fans want to make a statement then DON’T show up to the matches, make a statement by keeping the stands empty, don’t buy the tickets to the games don’t show up, money or lack of will speak far louder than any complaint, if the fans can’t bring themselves to do that then show up, show your support, then 10 minutes before kickoff, invade the pitch, without anger without violence, just fill the pitch, get the game cancelled, show the management the fans have had enough, but moaning & complaining won’t do anything, ask the Newcastle fans how that’s worked for them
Imho GJB proper supporters will always show up and probably spend less time moaning about the board, the stadium, the weather, their lives. The players had stopped playing under MP so he wasn’t the answer, Moyes style is a sea change from that possession based style, the players on the pitch ultimately affect the result, its what they do in training and what they do every match day, for years before and since Allardyce we haven’t been able to defend, I certainly don’t want to go back to the Allardyce brand, one of the things that is fundamentally wrong at our and other clubs tbh is this keyboard warrior mindset and lack of support when the chips are down, for the players in the club as an example when Gold sends birthday wishes to Lanzini on twitter and its hijacked by trolls telling Lanzini he is useless… get behind the players, they go in and out of form, when they are out of form let’s get behind them so they come into form faster. We might argue the case for owners that make better choices or have a different strategy but if you look at the real evidence as provided by Sean in various blogs based on FOI requests or publically available stats, the owners have invested significanty and tried to keep our best players it just hasn’t worked out.
I personally don’t think they have a strategy that thinks long term and that is the problem, other than survival in a league they have a track record of interfering in team selection, purchasing squad members against managers advice or giving presents as it is described, undermining managers on the training ground like Zola, making press announcements that alienate us from the wider public making us less popular etc…
So on the face of it, I agree they should go but as a season ticket holder and fan, the love of the club goes way beyond who a current custodian is, supporting them when they need it runs deeper than any desire to change the owner or manager.
COYI’s always !!!!
Play Antonio up front as soon as possible
Couldn’t to any worse than bring in di canio.passion and use of the right players and get them playing how they should and as a team again.c.o.y.i.