It was noticeable again yesterday that despite some piffle we were fed by the manager a couple of weeks back that he admired him greatly, followed by a suggestion from elsewhere that he was very slightly injured, he was again missing from the squad.
And when Vladimir Coufal was given his worst run around since arriving in the Premier League by Marcus Rashford it was young Ben Johnson who stepped in to the very uncomfortable breach and tried to cope.
He didn’t do too badly by the way.
Fredericks looks a goner and the reality is that Moyes, for all the presser chat a while back, that he was an energetic player whom he liked, has now left him out of the team for four different players – Pablo Zabaleta, Jeremy Ngakia, Johnson and Coufal.
It looks very much as though the former Fulham defender has played his last game in a Hammers shirt – what the club needs now is a buyer.