West Ham travel upto Nottingham Forest for tomorrows crucial Premier League fixture after a chaotic week which saw two new signings and a host of players linked with last minute transfer window exits: Tomas Soucek, Nayef Aguerd, Emerson Palmieri and Lucas Paquetá amongst the names linked with rumoured or real exit developments.
From twitter comes the ominous warning that Lucas Paqueta may be left out of the West Ham squad for the Tricky Trees’ fixture, ahead of a possible deadline day move: With a bit of a tweak as far as the translation is concerned, ‘footmercato’ journo Santi Aouna’s report suggests:
“ There is lot of chance that Lucas Paqueta will not travelled with West Ham for the game against Nottingham Forest As revelead, Aston Villa have opened talks with West Ham for the Brazilian midfielder. During the last weeks, West Ham turne down a proposal from Tottenham”
Much will depend on the negotiations today. We hear – off the record – and just for our readers, you understand, that West Ham will not consider a loan with obligation but are only interested in a straight sale.
Aston Villa however are pushing for a loan with obligation next summer. So either the offer shifts – which is entirely possible, or the end result is ‘no deal’.
Judge for yourself when the squad is announced at 12.45 by Claret and Hugh ahead of the game tomorrow. The name ‘Lucas Paqueta’ on the start sheet will be an indication that the bid from Villa has not progressed and that our ‘rumour mill’ gives us good intel!
After the problems West Ham had trying to sign John djuran , why should we make it easy for Villa to just walk in and take one of our best players. Obviously the board don’t give a rat’s arse about the supporters who turn up week in week out only to walk away disappointed most days Packeta fits very well in the system Andi’s scoring goals. The new additions are untried and require game time
It would be alot better if the transfer window didn’t run into the start of the season. It causes so many issues for clubs.
Also do away with the January transfer window.
Martin this would be a sad reflection of the dire state of West Ham’s ability to generate profit from player sales particularly those that are home grown. In the last 10 years West Ham have made a profit on just SIX players:-
Declan Rice (+£105m)
Mohammed Kudus (+ £17m)
Dimitri Payet (+£14.m)
Grady Diangana (+£9m)
Flynn Downes (+£7m)
Ashley Fletcher (+£5.5m)
Total £157 million
That is a truly shocking indictment on the failed transfer policy by managers and the board plus the huge sums paid to Agents for players who failed to generate any profit for the club. Contrast that with the £300 million spent on 50 strikers since 2010 and our current players on very long contracts who have no place at the club but continue to be paid huge salaries adding to our costs, and reducing our ability to compete for high quality replacements. Last season our club’s wages alone cost an astronomical £90,740,000 and the 9th highest in the PL! The short term scattergun approach which we continue to see has never worked in the past, yet we still use this today after our worse start in the top league since 1954. As Ian says, if there is any truth in the Paqueta rumours, it is absolutely essential that we have an even better replacement signed first, otherwise all the good work done in signing Fernandes and Magassa is immediately undone, further weakening our team with only 2 days left in the window. This would add to the huge discontent in our fan base and further undermine Potter whose job is already under threat going into the Forest game and international break. Any attempt to sign him especially a loan with a future obligation to buy should be firmly rejected. Villa already face challenges with PSR but have just sold Jacob Ramsay for £43 million and Paqueta still has 2 years of his contract remaining. Rumours that he is refusing to play at Forest to avoid the risk of being injured do not bode well if true.
He is the only one with any flair in the team at the moment and seems to be getting back to his best. I really hope he stays and keeps entertaining. Just our luck if we sell him that now he is over the betting fiasco he will be back to his best.
Surely even Sullivan would not allow Paquetá to leave so close to the window closing especially only on a loan with an obligation to buy? They have only just signed 2 very promising midfielders and are still desperately short of quality replacements in defence, a genuine box to box midfielder plus a 3rd keeper with little more than 48 hours to go, so it would make seriously weaken the team. Rival clubs are landing their targets and continuing to strengthen so we need to match their ambition and build squad depth, and avoid the “we tried” scenario at all costs. We need at least 3 more quality signings just to stand still and cannot afford to lose the creativity which Paqueta brings.
Don’t believe the media, Villa are not interested in Paqueta, viewed a good player but £50m for a 28yr old who wants out is seen as too much. There is no offer, someone’s lying to you.
Hope you are right Sid
Losing Paqueta now after making these signings would be pointless
We would just go back to square one
Concentrate on other coming in signings.
Aguerd out going with replacement, Cresswell / Shea Charles / Mwanga?
Also Quinton Timber or Dju (if Forest haven’t signed him) third mid field.
I have been a HAMMER all my life , est 1979 , they sold Kudas to a rival club , now Paqueta is in the news of leaving and not in tomorrow’s match , We have gone to pot with Potter , surely he has to go , Our worst manager so far , hope Joe Coles call to Sullivan is true and Potter gone tomorrow if we lose , I’ve never backed my own team to lose and never will, Just Potter got to go COYI , C’MON U HAMMERS
Martin, maybe you can explain how a loan with an obligation is any different to a permanent transfer other than terms of payment, which providing there is a significant loan fee, would likely work out the same?!
I’m no expert! But terms can still be subject to negotiation: Eg-Todibo’s loan with obligation only came ‘live’ after 10 starts.In any case, loan with obligation payment would be say 5m up front loan fee, then 45 million payable over 4 years starting in 12 months time. less paid now. straight sale would be 50 mill, prob 20 mill up front and 30 mill over 4 years. so worse for cash flow, buying other players etc.
ALSO some loan deals will have clause to ‘walk away’ from obligation. Chelsea/Sancho situation.
IF there’s any truth in this, I assume we have a replacement lined up ready to sign. Otherwise the good work done in signing Fernandes and Magassa is immediately undone, and we’re weakened yet again.
Exactly!!!
These people have no clue how to assemble a proper team Losing Paqueta would be disastrous…..Clueless