Ok, we’ve all had our say and we’ve all been here before, many times!
I’ve been as depressed and pessimistic as many over recent days and will never have any hesitation in expressing my thoughts whatever reaction they get.
Social media and forums are what they are and most of us get used to whatever comes our way.
However, despite what most would accept as some managerial mistakes to find the “Sack Pellegrini now” outbursts starting – and there have been quite a few – is rather sad to put it mildly.
The reality is that we are in mid table and a win over Newcastle ( I know, not the greatest team in the world) could lift us into the top six again. So let’s hold our horses a little and show a little more trust than may be around at the moment.
After all, we’ve tried the sacking business before…and I don’t remember it worked that well.
I accept there are few excuses for recent results and performances although there was an improvement at the weekend.
My issues with the boss have been documented – poor substitutions at the wrong time and playing Haller as a lone striker.
I think they are reasonable but I don’t believe they, or one point from three games, is anywhere near a sacking offence so let’s just give it the Newcastle game and Burnley away before the next international break and then Spurs at home before totally losing the plot.
Judgement Day could be on it’s way but it’s certainly not here yet!
Was at the match, but feel our formation is all wrong. We are going backwards again no effort no pressure on other team. It was a terrible game to watch, and when we play like this it kills the atmosphere. We were silent for long periods, but we need to see effort from the players. this way he is setting the team up is not working. We need to beat Newcastle this weekend. Roll your sleeves up lads,and get stuck in, and beat them. Pretty passing backwards, and forwards, is not getting us any where. Come on we have the players show some passion.
I agree Hugh – I started supporting the Hammers when John Lyall was manager and felt devastated when he was sacked. I was not sorry to see BFS go (altough the race between him and Sully of the you’re fired no I’m not I resign first was a bit distasteful) but felt very sad when Slav was fired (and his first season was really good) and for that reason (not liking to see coaches fired) felt that Moyes should have been given another full season
Hopefully we will see Pelle turn performances around (like he did at the end of last season)
For the effect of changing managers repeatedly we can look at Southampton
Me too Zahama and same sort of history cept I go back to RG SIGH!:-)
Agree. And Southampton’s Hasenhuttl looks like a cross between Tony Adams and Glen Hoddle. Only against Leicester they defended like a Hoddle and attacked like an Adams …
We used to laugh at Spurs supporters for asking for the managers head every five minutes. I honestly think some of our fans are worse now.
I’ve been a Hammer for 60 years Hugh and I’m a sack Pelle now fan – and I don’t think its sad I think its sensible. You say we’ve tried the sacking business before and its failed – that’s s because the owners replace one duffer with another. Leicester are in the sacking business and look where they are with Rodgers, miles ahead of us. Convince me that’s he’s better than Moyes and I’d argue he isn’t. A Moyes team wouldn’t have performed as we did at Goodison. And you neglect to mention our abysmal showing at Oxford in the only competition we’ve got a realistic chance of winning. He will get sacked I’m sure, but with loads of supporters still saying he’s s a top manager we’ll have to endure another season of mid-table mediocrity. And Haller must be wondering what he’s let himself in for. He’ll be gone by next summer unless Pelle goes first. People always say “who else is there?”. What a defeatist attitude. For a start there’s a guy on the south coast who keeps a team with a stadium that holds two men and a dog in the Prem year after year. And quite a few fans would like him. I don’t have to name him, you know who I mean.
From another sexagenarian:
Well reasoned, Joe!
Sack him laughable!
Anyone think we have about 30m to pay off him and his team?
What does surprise me is how much he’s being paid, I think we’ll finish about 10-12th which the question I ask is he worth circ 8m a year? Time will tell.
Personally I hope they give him a new contract in the summer otherwise next season will drift like in other seasons when there are consistent questions about the managers future if being out of contract and we know players use this as an excuse.
I don’t think we ever improved the defence from last year, it shows now. If you can’t keep clean sheets at this level you will always be chasing.
Agree to early for sack coments but sorry if he so defiant to his one up front system.it AIN’T going to cut it!! If he is still.proclaimed to.be a ‘world class ‘ manager then SURELY he can see it ain’t gonna WORK with this squad HE has assembled 😢😢
Sacking a proven world class manager like Pellegrini would be insane. He has brought so much to West Ham in such a short space of time that we are getting carried away with ourselves. All teams go through difficult periods and come out the other side. He will sort it out thats for sure. Meanwhile lets just keep supporting the team and they will come good.
Ya, but we are having a ‘ difficult period ‘ against Villa, Oxford, Palace, Everton, Bournemouth not Liverpool, Man C, Spurs, Chelsea etc
As you say ‘ the reality is ‘ Aston Villa 0 WHU 0, Oxford 4 WHU 0, Bournemouth 2 WHU 2, WHU 1 Palace 2, Everton 2 WHU 0, WHU 1 Sheff U 1’ Don’t know about you, but I see a pattern here, and it’s not good.
If we had scored half of our chances last week these comments would not exist today. We would have a comfortable win.The manager cannot put the ball in the net. So what would we be saying of him today if we had won.
I can’t see the Daves admitting they were wrong to appoint him and I certainly can’t see them willing to pay up his contract and those of his backroom staff. Part of the frustration lies in that he doesn’t appear willing to change tactics in a match. There’s nothing wrong with going 2 up front with 30 mins to go and by being more direct on occasion if the one-touch passing is not working. Don’t leave it till 5 mins to go. Another part of the frustration lies in the comments about ‘playing like a big team’. Well, we are … only the big team is Man Utd, not City …
Personally I am not one for knee jerk reactions, but I was one of the few that wasn’t excited about us appointing him and while I have had periods of optimism, nothing much has changed my mind.
What I will say is I don’t think we would have spent some of the funds we have, especially last season, if a manager of his experience hadn’t come in. I do think he knows how a club should run, how a bigger club should operate and has been great at moving the owners away from how badly they used to run the club.
However, as a manager, a coach, a tactician, he is living on past glories and the game has changed SO much over the past 5-10 years and I personally think this job is beyond his ability now.
We have no identity in our playing style. Can anyone actually put a description to our style and system?
We’re not possesion or pressing, because we sit back in defence and let the opponents have the ball, we do little to get the ball back outside of our third. We’re not direct or counter attacking, as we often like to **** about with the ball in the back four in build up. We’re not physical or high energy, we never control midfield, we’re not anything really, just a mismatch of talented players that we hope comes together and that sometimes works.
I am not saying sack him, but it would be nice to have a manager next time who actually plays a specific system and style, that gives us some identity and picks players to suit the system.
I do think he will be the major reason we are unlikely to take a great opportunity to move upwards this year – we have the players.
Sack Pellegrini
I agree with Joe – Pellegrini is Avram Grant, Mark 2 !
He is clueless, doesn’t know what formation to play and drops the wrong players.
We are slow and laboured in possession, don’t close down opposition enough and we have no “legs” in the team, and last season relied on our ‘keeper to save us on more occasions that I care to remember.
Oh, and on another matter, Gold & Sullivan need to come out and tell the fans exactly what their intentions are. World class stadium, world class players – bull**** !
Could have stayed at The Boleyn and been mediocre instead of moving to the fruit bowl and
Cresswell extended contract shows their ambitions !
They either need to put their hands in their pockets or sell the club.
Spending a reasonable amount in one window doesn’t wash, I’m afraid.
What was it ? 25m net spend last Summer, I believe ? – most Championship clubs spent more than that !