Moyes must be sacked after shocking defeat

Bayer Leverkusen 4 West Ham 0
By Hughie Southon
I know this is West Ham and things have depressed many of us year after year but after nearly 60 years of supporting this club of mine and yours I have seen nothing as depressing as RIGHT NOW!

I CAN SEE NO HOPE FOR THIS SEASON UNDER THIS MANAGER and today’s terrible defeat in Germany underlined it three or four times.

With Declan Rice and Gianluca Scamacca gone, this club is in a shocking state and today we were entirely outclassed by an excellent German team who could have had two or three more.

The Hammers showed no energy, were once again pushed onto the back foot and apart from a Soucek header hitting the bar and another chance cleared off the line were never at the races.

After what was a thoroughly awful pipe opener before we travel to Bournemouth next weekend the proper thing to do is to get a couple of players in immediately preferably in the middle and up front before SACKING THIS AWFUL MANAGER.

Things were far worse than at the end of last season and the future is scary after a performance which left anyone watching bereft of any hope.

If tou can call it such, Flynn Downes was probably the high mark of the Hammers performance with everybody else offering a fed up body language suggesting they had had enough of playing football the Moyes way,

So the only words one can address to the board are: Sack him now!

This was a total embarrassment!

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Hugh Southon is a lifelong Iron and the founding editor of ClaretandHugh. He is a national newspaper journalist of many years experience and was Bobby Moore's 'ghost' writer during the great man's lifetime. He describes ClaretandHugh as "the Hammers daily newspaper!"

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  • Buster says:

    If West Ham get thumped by Bournemouth next week, then you may have made a point, Hugh. This time last year West Ham thrashed Celtic 6-1 in Glasgow. It had no bearing on how the season would pan out for both teams. I’ve never been one to pay attention to pre-season friendlies.

    I’d like to know what you saw in Flynn Downes today to shower such praise on someone who was solely to blame for the breakdown of possession that lead to Bayer’s penalty and their fourth goal. Downes will NEVER be good enough for West Ham or the Premier League. If we sign James Ward-Prowse in the coming few days, I pray that Downes goes in the opposite direction as part of the deal.

  • Limey says:

    Bit OTT on the criticism today.
    West Ham were certainly outplayed for most of the game and tactically looked confused at times.
    IMHO Moyes changed tactics 4 times during the game, leading to varying degrees of success/failure.
    The same issues we saw last season were still there. (Sitting too deep, too passive, too slow, no outlet ball, unable to pass accurately, unable to deal with a high press etc.)

    On the other hand; playing away against a team that lost Europa League semi-final to Roma. Who were 2nd bottom when Alonzo took over, ended up qualifying for Europe in 6th place. AND it was pre-season friendly.

    Maybe in an ideal world, Xabi Alonzo would be West Ham Head Coach/Manager and Tim Stiedten would fill the squad with young stars on a shoestring, but firing Moyes now would be self-destruction.

  • Hammers in the blood 1 says:

    Yep agree !

  • colh says:

    please let us just sack him now, surely it cant get any worse bring someone in with fresh ideas

  • johnham1 says:

    First home game if he is still the manager we as fans need to make our feelings crystal clear now. He will not change. The board should sack him now it us the tight thing to do for the club.

  • cas22sie says:

    What a shambles yet again,two friendlies ,7 goals conceded.They were appalling.Another long season in the Premiership.

  • hoolio says:

    Totally agree. We won the conference in spite of him being in charge and oddly this is a good thing as it shows despite Moyes’s “best efforts” we won anyway and proves we have some very decent players…
    If they were to be played and motivated properly a top half finish this season would be on the cards if not (and obviously without Rice constantly sweeping up after Moyes on the pitch) we’re looking at the championship. No ifs, buts or maybes Moyes WILL take us down. Time for Sullivan to stop messing about (like making a dof appointment in order to make Moyes walk) and just sack him.

  • Pav says:

    Absolutely. The players, coaching staff and DOF don’t want to work with him. He is the common denominator and Sullivan needs get it done. Winning the conference league has only reaffirmed his Moyes stubbornness and I can only see us going down under him. I can see a horrible atmosphere at the Chelsea game if he is allowed to continue when we should be going into it with the buzz of finally winning something

  • Mr Buddy Lurve says:

    Just prior to the final whistle, my poor wife endured 10 minutes of me explaining why our turgid performance was so bad, and it all boils down to Moyes and his anti-football, ultra-defensive philosophy that died 20 years ago. How is it not blatantly obvious to Sullivan that he’s lost the whole club – fans, players and fellow coaches!

    I don’t want us to sign anyone before he’s gone. Sign up Alonso to take over, and empower Steidten to help him build our future.

    Just awful. Sullivan retaining this arrogant one-dimensional dinosaur is jeopardising his legacy. Total embarrassment.

  • Pav says:

    Absolutely. No one wants to work with moyes, we are compromising what we stand for as a club letting him dictate signing players based on his dreadful style of football. Time to get it done before it’s too late

  • ironrich says:

    Given that you spent most of last season demanding that Moyes be sacked I’m not surprised by your embarrassing comments. I did think you might have waited for the season to stsrt! Pre season games are meaningless. We’re all disappointed that we’ve not yeti signed anyone. But I’m sure the Rice money and more will be spent over the next few weeks. Let’s get behind the team and manager.

    • Thats because he deserved it last season and the performance today was more embarrassing than my comments. Im happy for you you are happy with him

    • Mr Buddy Lurve says:

      The fact that your comments stand out from the crowd either makes you a genius or deluded. I guess we’ll find out soon.

      Moyes has been serving up horrid football for over a year. Players are leaving (or want to leave) in their droves. Nobody wants to sign for us. Coaches are leaving. Nothing has changed in the way we play. But, if that’s all acceptable to you, then okay…

  • jaybs says:

    Moyes, should have gone at the end of last season, but must Go Now! but no way am I convinced with Tim Steidten, we are West Ham, not a European club.

  • KingDiCanio says:

    I watched the match and it reminded me of our first game after last years World Cup when he had 5 weeks to get things right but we looked exactly the same. He doesn’t know how to improve or motivate any one anymore. The players look like they’ve never played with each other and fed up. I agree with you and your article that he has to go now. Get a manager in and give him 4 weeks to get who he needs in.

    • Mr Buddy Lurve says:

      Totally agree. I think that’s what makes it so hard to bear. All this time gone by and absolutely nothing changes. Does he actually care what the players need or think? Or does he just say “it’s my way or the highway, laddie”?

      Same formation. Same tactics. Same players playing out of position or in a system that doesn’t suit them…

      Changing nothing, and expecting different results is the definition of insanity!

      • Limey says:

        Buddy, I assume you watched the game.

        Moyes changed tactics/formation throughout the game, as that is essential in today’s game, that’s what pre-season friendlies are all about, practice!

        Whilst in an ideal world, changing Moyes for a new dynamic coach seems to be what people want, we can’t say ‘nothing changes’. That would be insanity or something .

  • dirk says:

    Your unending negativity is the real problem at our club. You should stop.

    • Yeah course it is. I pick the team and decide the tactics leave the squad two key players down and fail to get any oin before the season starts, You have to be correct

    • Mr Buddy Lurve says:

      Wow, Dirk – that’s insightful.

      It’s pretty difficult to be positive when a situation is this dire.

      And if you don’t like what the owner of a website writes, either make a valid counter argument or stop visiting.

  • BonzosBallbag says:

    An embarrassing defeat but not as embarrassing as calling for the manager’s head after a friendly.

    • a friendly one week away from the start of the season. Didn’t look like a friendly to the Germans did it

    • Mr Buddy Lurve says:

      Are you serious?? Did you not watch any of the games since the World Cup?

      You know it’s not after one friendly. It’s after an entire season, a Summer AND friendles where we’ve been roundly outplayed by Leverkusen, Rennes, held by D&R and outplayed for large periods against Spurs in their first pre-season game!

      If you’re not going to inform yourself, save us the time reading your comments.

  • Hammer2.0 says:

    The negativity is intense on this forum. David Moyes won a European trophy last season, has twice saved the club from relegation, and has West Ham into Europe for the 3rd consecutive season. No one in the world would have predicted that. And yet some fans are calling for him to be sacked? Hopefully by next week we’ll sign McTominay, Maguire and Alvarez and everyone will calm down. Complaining about sacking someone after a meaningless friendly is toxic.

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